Monday, May 29, 2006

Here on Earth Update

Despite massive problems with Skype, I think the program went very well. A lot of good callers and excellent second guest: Marc Chavannes, journalist for the Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad, former Washington correspondent.
Click here to listen to the program in Real format.

Was this discussion useful/interesting/a dreadful bore from an awful blowhard? You can leave your comments below.


At 7:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Oh boy. They may even deport her!"

That's the headline on your blog. And you can claim to not have been aware of your sarcasm? That doesn't pass the smile test. Surely you must be more self-aware than that?


Yolu claim she is not a "Voice of reason"

Have you considered that Hirsi Ali may be correct? About Islam?

At 10:23 AM, Blogger Jonathan Groubert said...

Have I considered it? Of course. But no, she's not correct and I find her deeply unreasonable. In fact, I find her approach damaging to Muslim/Western relations. After all, who wants to listen when your being shouted at.
Have you considered that she might be wrong?

At 4:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You don't understand at all. I never even considered that Hirsi Ali was correct until I started looking at the evidence. And I am not yet totally convinced simply because I am lack sufficient knowledge to make a judgment.

And I think it funny that you hold yourself out as an expert about Islam and can claim that Hirsi Ali is wrong! The very least you could do is show some humility.

Islam may be a fine religion but it needs to go through the self-criticism which Christianity went through before it is a civil religion, tolerant of others. Where are the Islamic equivalent of the Quakers and Unitarians and so forth? Hiding out of fear because their co-religionists (for the most part) are extremists, if they exist at all?

As I noted in another post, you feel free (as a Jew, no less!) to publicize a site which makes fun of Catholicism. Would you do the same for one which made fun of Islam?

That is a specific question. Will you promote something equally-offensive to Moslems at Popetown is to Catholics?

And why not?

At 7:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Muslim refugees have fluded churches so they can get their Europian citizenship,why don't this people fill the churches let me tell you because they have learnt how to use and abuse western systems let's say the west was a boat in the ocean how how many people can it take before the boat sincks if all Muslims flee their Islamic created hell holes when will their countries get free from dictatorships when will all these Islamic tribal sects unite as nations and stop killing each other and inocent people for their belief's but the socialists of the world are out to destroy western culture and create the same living hell holes of the muslim world

At 7:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

People all over the world claim Islam as a peaceful religion but do they know the violent history of this cult and it's prophet of pedophilia sex slaves and many so called wive;s even his own step daughter Zainab every one should google Dr Wafa Sultan who exposed Islam as the dark age barbaric stone worship Cult


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