Tuesday, August 01, 2006


Are these gentlemen, the leaders of the Dutch political group the Party for Love, Freedom and Brotherly Love, brave beacons of democracy or just plain old pedophiles? Listen to this week's program and decide for yourself.

Segment 1 - Release of Pedophile Causes Irish Controversy
Protests in front of the Irish Parliament follow a High Court decision to allow early release from jail of a pedophile. For EuroQuest, Louise Williams was at the day of protest in Dublin.

Segment 2 - Fighting Child Porn on the Internet
Reporting of child porn on the Internet has increased. But at the same time child porn on the web is becoming more extreme and the culprits are finding ways to hide porn sites from the police. Cormac Callanan of the organization Inhope, says there’s no telling how much child porn is on the Internet.
Click here for a link to Inhope

Segment 3 - Polygraphy in the Fight Against Child Pornography
Since the beginning of this year the lie detector has become a regular tool used in sex offender therapy in the Netherlands. Critics say the lie detector can’t be trusted and so the method should not be used. Michel Walraven reports.

Segment 4 - Holland’s Pedophilia Party
Martijn Uitenbogaard and his new Party for Brotherly love, freedom and diversity, want to work to reduce the age of consent in the Netherlands from 16 to 12. I asked Martijn Uitenbogaard exactly why he decided to openly take this issue on…
The party has a website. It is all in Dutch...

Click here to download the program as a high quality mp3


At 7:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, my hat is off to you Jon. As a parent, I never would have been able to keep my cool on the interview you had with Mr. Uitenbogaard. It obviously escapes him that at 12 years of age, that the brain is not fully developed, and in most circumstances neither is the body.

I live in North America and I had a child at 17. I do not regret my child, but I can speak from personal experience that the emotional and physical impact of having a child so young was not at all healthy. I can look back now and see that I had made bad choices that I paid dearly for. Mr. Uitenbogaard does not understand that a person under the age of 18 cannot possibly have the wisdom to be responsible for the consequences of being sexually active at such an early age.

We do not allow children to vote, simply because they are easily influenced and have a limited knowledge base on which to draw. The same is true of childhood sexual intercourse.

For heaven sake, let our children actually have a childhood. Why put the pressure of sexuality on them as such a tender age. Twelve year olds should be playing soccer, chewing bubble gum and only have to worry about focussing on their academics. Our children must already grow up too fast as we must train them at a younger age to watch out for people who can potentially harm and/or kill them. Gone are the days when a kid can play safely in their front yard, neighbourhood street hockey or basketball.

It strikes me that it is likely that Mr. Uitenbogaard does not have children. I believe his opinion would substantially change upon experiencing parenthood. He would then comprehend the naievity and innocence of children.

If he is a parent would he condone his children having sex at 12? Does he have sex with children that are 12? Is he simply someone who thinks he is very liberal or is Mr. Uitenbogaard a pedofile himself?

At 4:58 PM, Blogger Jonathan Groubert said...

Well, I'm a parent too, but I felt that this development was interesting enough to take seriously. As the program's first 3 quarters spoke of pedophiles negatively, I thought in the interest of balance I could give someone a chance who feels otherwise.
As to whether Mr. Uitenbogaard is a pedophile, I didn't ask for two reasons.
1. I didn't want to prejudice the interview.
2. We can safely assume he is.

As for whether or not his opinion would change if he were a parent, I don't think so.
My personal opinion is pedophiles in general, and certainly these guys who are activists, would change nothing. Pedophiles are highly resistent to therapy.

Personally, I feel this party is an agenda setting exercise looking to equate pedophiles with homosexuals who were once misunderstood and gaining more acceptance.

It seems clear that this comparison is misguided. Consenting adults should be able to do what they look. Children are simply not adults and therefore their consent is void as the ability to make informed emotional decisons has not yet developed.

Glad you thought this interview was useful. I've already gotten on bit of hate mail.

At 2:55 PM, Blogger SiliconJesus said...

Listening to the interview last night, I was astounded by the fact that Mr. Uitenbogaard is completely convinced that he's doing his actions, not for himself and other pedophiles, but for the children.

This is how pedophiles really think. They believe that their actions are for the good of the children, not for their own self gratification.

At 4:35 PM, Blogger Jonathan Groubert said...

Thank you for your comment.

I think it's safer to presume that we don't really know how pedophiles think. I'm sure some are tortured out of control individuals who have a terrible sense of guilt about behavior. Others, like Mr. Uitenbogaard et al, have turned it around and blame society for their situation and are, therefore, trying to change society.

We can take solace in the knowledge that this party only has 10 members.


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